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now a days it's not like learn a language and show off. you have to work very hard.:mad:
I have to use GIT for version control which is all commands and shit that you people don't even understand.
we have to use linux becuase windows is too slow for using CLI tools. linux itself is more complex subject than complete As and A level. that is just what we use to develop.:cool:
and then there are so many frameworks you need to learn.
to create a simple application we need a write many classes which alone takes so much time. and then we have to implement it on php files. then build a reponsive website. use jquery to make it dynamic. and AJAX to fetch data. so much to do.
and you comment on my hard work after learning a few loops and if else commands in pseodocode. (n)(n)
This is real shit nigga real shit. it's not writing a 10 lines loop in exams. this ain't a game. it is real work. takes real hardwork. and real time.
:p:p:p you go memorise the definitions of input output devices. :cool::cool::cool::p:p
and btw i have learned java and c++ as well. but it was 3 years ago and I never used it again. so i don't even remember anything of java now. but if someday i decide to develop android applications it won't even take a month to learn the android SDK as i already know the basics of JAVA. :D
Typing commands in CLI does not make you a uber leet. You really are exaggerating too much.

"windows is too slow for using CLI tools" Which ones?
 
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Typing commands in CLI does not make you a uber leet. You really are exaggerating too much.

"windows is too slow for using CLI tools" Which ones?
you can't use CLI tools in windows. windows has no useful shell. what can you do in windows?
in linux setting up a server is as easy as this:
sudo apt-get install apache2 mod-php5 php5 mysql-client mysql-server openSSH
installing git:
sudo apt-get install git
starting first project:
cd /var/www/html
mkdir ./project1
cd ./project1
git init
vi index.php
it all takes about 5 minutes depending on download speed
(i didn't compile php5 from source because i added a repo on my machine which has it's package)

installing composer.phar, in 20 seconds
installing node.js? clone the source, config, make, and then make install.

and if we have a server anywhere else what would you do on windows? install putty to SSH into that server. use puttyKeyGEn to convert ssh keys. on linux it is as easy as ssh root@serveraddress
no doubt in it that windows is for ordinary people. For developers linux is best. but mac osx can also work because it is unix and it has just as powerful shell as linux.
 
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Typing commands in CLI does not make you a uber leet. You really are exaggerating too much.

"windows is too slow for using CLI tools" Which ones?
by slow i mean that we have to add path of an execuatable to environment variable to use it is command prompt. and we all know how insecure windows is compared to linux.
 
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by slow i mean that we have to add path of an execuatable to environment variable to use it is command prompt. and we all know how insecure windows is compared to linux.
Insecurity depends on the user.
http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/4441/open-source-vs-closed-source-systems?lq=1

Well that's slow because of the method you are using to interact with the program. That's why they make GUI for windows.

you can't use CLI tools in windows. windows has no useful shell. what can you do in windows?
in linux setting up a server is as easy as this:
sudo apt-get install apache2 mod-php5 php5 mysql-client mysql-server openSSH
installing git:
sudo apt-get install git
starting first project:
cd /var/www/html
mkdir ./project1
cd ./project1
git init
vi index.php
it all takes about 5 minutes depending on download speed
(i didn't compile php5 from source because i added a repo on my machine which has it's package)

installing composer.phar, in 20 seconds
installing node.js? clone the source, config, make, and then make install.

and if we have a server anywhere else what would you do on windows? install putty to SSH into that server. use puttyKeyGEn to convert ssh keys. on linux it is as easy as ssh root@serveraddress
no doubt in it that windows is for ordinary people. For developers linux is best. but mac osx can also work because it is unix and it has just as powerful shell as linux.
You can use CLI tools.
Yes it has no useful shell but there are many alternatives available.
You use chocolatey

Well matter of opinion --> "no doubt in it that windows is for ordinary people." , "For developers linux is best".
Every developer doesn't develop web applications -_-

I don't do web dev but you are connecting to a linux machine. There are also ASP.Net servers which aren't running on linux.
 
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Insecurity depends on the user.
http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/4441/open-source-vs-closed-source-systems?lq=1

Well that's slow because of the method you are using to interact with the program. That's why they make GUI for windows.


You can use CLI tools.
Yes it has no useful shell but there are many alternatives available.
You use chocolatey

Well matter of opinion --> "no doubt in it that windows is for ordinary people." , "For developers linux is best".
Every developer doesn't develop web applications -_-

I don't do web dev but you are connecting to a linux machine. There are also ASP.Net servers which aren't running on linux.
asp.net? yes that's microsoft's commercial language and most developers work on it with visual studio. they have no reason to use linux. they use windows server with IIS. it depends on the ecosystem actually. the 'open-source' ecosystem works best in linux because:
linus torvalds developed linux kernal and gave it for free and it's completely open source.
Netbeans, eclipse, C++, virtualbox, Java, mysql, php, apache, nginx, node.js they are all open source
all Linux distros are open source(doesn't mean free)
back in days developers used to compile the linux from source to install it on the machine. it was an OS developed by developers for themselves and other developers.
I have never paid for anything on internet. so for me and many other developers this ecosystem is best. all tools we use are free. We help each other. we support each other. we teach each other. for free. even more we make software for each other. and the tools we make are made with linux keeping in mind. even to use windows i will have to buy it. I have windwos 8 preinstalled on my laptop but i still use linux because i can't live without it now.

So the conclusion is that linux vs windows actually depends on the ecosystem but the type of development. There are many web developers who use windows + dreamweaver. there are java developers who use windows too.
objective C developers always work on apple devices and on XCode.
I can't say which platform and ecosystem is better then other but i am comfortable with open-source ecosystem and windows is never the main focus of developers who build open source software. most of the open source software are available on windows but they are not 'open-source' because they are already compiled and we get their executables not their source when we download them.

And just to be clear i am not arguing with you if you confound my language to be rude then i beg your pardon.
 
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asp.net? yes that's microsoft's commercial language and most developers work on it with visual studio. they have no reason to use linux. they use windows server with IIS. it depends on the ecosystem actually. the 'open-source' ecosystem works best in linux because:
linus torvalds developed linux kernal and gave it for free and it's completely open source.
Netbeans, eclipse, C++, virtualbox, Java, mysql, php, apache, nginx, node.js they are all open source
all Linux distros are open source(doesn't mean free)
back in days developers used to compile the linux from source to install it on the machine. it was an OS developed by developers for themselves and other developers.
I have never paid for anything on internet. so for me and many other developers this ecosystem is best. all tools we use are free. We help each other. we support each other. we teach each other. for free. even more we make software for each other. and the tools we make are made with linux keeping in mind. even to use windows i will have to buy it. I have windwos 8 preinstalled on my laptop but i still use linux because i can't live without it now.

So the conclusion is that linux vs windows actually depends on the ecosystem but the type of development. There are many web developers who use windows + dreamweaver. there are java developers who use windows too.
objective C developers always work on apple devices and on XCode.
I can't say which platform and ecosystem is better then other but i am comfortable with open-source ecosystem and windows is never the main focus of developers who build open source software. most of the open source software are available on windows but they are not 'open-source' because they are already compiled and we get their executables not their source when we download them.

And just to be clear i am not arguing with you if you confound my language to be rude then i beg your pardon.
It's a choice of opinion. "Windows is never the main focus of developers who build open source software"

That's a fantastic point -> "Windows isn't free". Bravo
 
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