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I'll be breif due to tym shorage...
Being a direct descendent of Rasool Allah(SAW) doesn't guarantee anything... remember the story of son of nooh (AS) in the quran...?? more proof: hadith -
"...O Faatimah, daughter of the Messenger of Allaah, ask me for whatever you want of my wealth, I cannot avail you anything before Allaah.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari (2602) and Muslim (206).

I wont mention my school of thought, but I will say if you call yourself a hanafi then take the aqeedah from Imam abu Hanifa as well. there are no issues in it. Alhamdulillah, Imam abu Haneefa was awesome, may Allah have mercy on him.

The reason I wont watch the video is that scholars allow those firm in knowledge (students of knowledge) to learn, n read from people of different aqaaid (coz they can judge b/w right and wrong) BUT for the general masses it is NOT recommended for fear of misguidance.

peace bro. :p

Wa 'Alaykum as-Salaam wa Rahmatullah.

The standard Aqidah followed by most scholars of the Hanafi fiqh is Maturidi. We take our law from Imam Abu Hanifa (may Allah have mercy upon Him eternally), and we take our doctrine from Shaykh Abu al-Mansur al-Maturidi. With all due respect, the followers of Ibn Abdul-Wahhab will not tell me what the Aqidah of Imam Abu Hanifa was; rather the Aqidah of Imam Abu Hanifa, or the Aqidah which would be accepted by him had the need arose in his time, is judged by the Aqaid of the majority of the scholars of the Ahlus-Sunnah wal-Jam'ah who are Hanafi - which is Maturidi. This theology is popular where the Hanafi school of law is followed, particularly the lands of the former Ottoman and Mughal empires, in Turkey, Afghanistan, Central Asia, Pakistan, Bangladesh, and India.

When I said I 'did not know' about the Aqaid, I was under the assumption that you were a Maturidi who was opposing the Ash'ari - and I did not have enough in-depth knowledge to tell you about the differences between them etc. I didn't realize you were referring to the Aqidah of the followers of Ibn Abdul-Wahhab. In that case, let me say that their understanding of the Ashari aqidah is weak, and Allah knows best. I mean Ibn Uthaymeen, Ibn Munajjid etc. and I understand that based on the Islam-QA link you gave me and the answer in it. The Ashari's do not say about Allah that of which 'they have no knowledge'; rather, the knowledge that is come to them, they affirm what Allah has affirmed and not more and not less, they negate what Allah has decisively negated, and confine the meaning of the texts which are difficult to understand to Allah alone. So, for example, the Qur'an says Allah has a Hand. The Asharis say; Allah has a Hand, of that there is no doubt and anyone who disbelieves therein has committed kufr; as Allah is unlike any of creation, His Hand is not like any 'Hand' we can ever imagine - Wa Lamya Kullahu Kufuwan Ahad [Qur'an 114:4]; and the true knowledge of the nature of Allah's Hand is with Allah Himself. Tell me, was this not the way of the Salaf-us-Salih?

I think I have deviated from the nature of this thread a bit too much now, so I'll leave it here. I would discuss the Aqaid with you in detail, both in an effort to clear up the misconceptions and learn exactly where you're coming from, at a separate time in a separate thread/conversation insha' Allah. Right now, I have exams sitting atop my head. I would advise you, however, do not learn the Sunni Aqaid from their opponents.

To those of our brothers and sisters who are not of the Wahhabiyya school of thought, there is nothing wrong in listening to and acting on the advice of Habib Ali and others like him, as they are the true scholars of the Ahlus-Sunnah wal-Jam'ah. Both the Ash'ari and Maturidi aqaid are the two accepted Aqaid in mainstream Islam; they are the standard of the Ahlus-Sunnah wal-Jamah, not deviants from them. The Hanafis take their Aqidah from Imam al-Maturidi and their law from Imam Abu Hanifa, upon them be mercy. The Shafi'is take their Aqidah from Imam al-Ashari and their law from Imam as-Shafi'i. Ask any non-Wahhabi scholar you know to verify this. I'll give us a name of one of the greatest scholars that this Ummah has ever seen; and one can verify what his Aqidah was: Shaykh-ul-Islam Imam an-Nawawi, may Allah have mercy upon Him. He is the most authoritative in the Shafi'i school of fiqh after Imam as-Shafi'i himself; and He adhered to the Ash'ari aqidah. This is one name out of several hundreds, but the weight of the name I think is sufficient proof. Anyways, those who wish to verify my claim, go to any local non-Wahabi scholar and verify what I have said. We leave our Wahabiyyah brethren with what they believe, and we adhere to what we believe, and we remind ourselves that we both say: 'La ilaha il-Allah, Muhammadur-Rasul Allah, Sall-Allahu 'Alayhi wa Sallam', and we pray that those are our last words upon death. And we will let Allah be the judge concerning our differences, on the Day of Resurrection.

May Allah guide us all to the Sirat al-Mustaqim, and may He forgive the Entire Ummah of His Beloved (Sall-Allahu 'Alayhi wa Sallam) on the Day of Resurrection, and grant us all the Intercession of The Beloved of God (Sall-Allahu 'Alayhi wa Sallam), which He promised Him (Sall-Allahu 'Alayhi wa Sallam). Ameen, bi rahmatika ya Arhamar-Rahimeen. Allahumma Salli 'ala Sayyidina Muhammadinin-Nabiyyil-Ummiyi wa 'ala Aalihi, wa Sallim Tasleema. Wal-Hamdulillahi Rabbil-'Alameen.
 
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AOA wr wbs...
u arent suposed 2 leave da ppl confused here..... post which ur sure of JA :)

wa 'Alaykum as-Salaamu wa Rahmatullah.

I'm really sorry about that. I did not intend to be a cause of confusion, but I felt I had to at least clear up the fact that the Asharis are not some evil deviant sect that no one listens to. They are the standard of the Shafi'i school of fiqh. If someone disagrees with their understanding of theology, then to each their own, but that doesn't mean you stop people from listening to a lecture about good character and taqwa.

Just avoid the confusion by affirming faith in Allah and His Messenger (Sall-Allahu 'Alayhi wa Sallam), and taking what is in this thread regarding the grooming of one's soul. The topic of the thread; or of my video, is not Aqidah. Its good character and taqwa, and I recommend my Muslim brothers and sisters regardless of their school of thought, to watch and implement on it.

Let's groom our souls, brothers and sisters.
 
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wa 'Alaykum as-Salaamu wa Rahmatullah.

I'm really sorry about that. I did not intend to be a cause of confusion, but I felt I had to at least clear up the fact that the Asharis are not some evil deviant sect that no one listens to. They are the standard of the Shafi'i school of fiqh. If someone disagrees with their understanding of theology, then to each their own, but that doesn't mean you stop people from listening to a lecture about good character and taqwa.

Just avoid the confusion by affirming faith in Allah and His Messenger (Sall-Allahu 'Alayhi wa Sallam), and taking what is in this thread regarding the grooming of one's soul. The topic of the thread; or of my video, is not Aqidah. Its good character and taqwa, and I recommend my Muslim brothers and sisters regardless of their school of thought, to watch and implement on it.

Let's groom our souls, brothers and sisters.
exactly....our emaan should be strong...we all know which is da ryt path....make us strong on dat path ya ALLAH
 
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Hadith and Ayaats related to UNITY:


"Hold fast to the rope of Allah,all of you.And do not be divided. (Surah-e-Aal-e-Imran,Ayat103)

"Do not be disunited, otherwise you will become weak and lose your wind". (Surah-e-Anfal,Ayat46)

Nabi(SAW) said: "The Muslims are like the bricks of a single building.Each one gives support to the others." (Mishkat Shareef, Zad-ut-Talibeen)
 
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“The example of those who spend their wealth in the way of Allah is like a seed [of grain] which grows seven spikes; in each spike is a hundred grains. And Allah multiplies [His reward] for whom He wills. And Allah is all-Encompassing and Knowing.” (Al Qur’an, 2:261)
 
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The Prophet (sallAllahu 'alyhi wasallam) said, “Every day two angels come down from Heaven and one of them says, ‘O Allah! Compensate every person who spends in Your cause’, and the other (angel) says, ‘O Allah! Destroy every miser.’” (Bukhari, Vol. 2, Hadith 522)
 
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ALLAH has connected us wd a rope...when we do bad,da rope gets tighter...sometyms Allah (swt) loosens da rope 2 see what we wil do...and we keep on doing bad thinking its allright or i wud have gotten punished...but when da time comes and Allah pulls da rope, evrything comes down on us....pray pray pray dat we donot ever get 2 feel ALLAHs wrath :( :( say ASTAGHFIRULLAH and protect us from all evil
AMEEEN !!
 
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Hadith for seeking forgiveness:
O Allah, forgive me and all the believing men (mu'mineen) and believing women (mu'minaat) and all the submitting (Muslim) men and women.
(Kanzul Um'mql,Hadith No.3876)
 
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Aodhubillahi min as-shaytanir-rajeem. Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Raheem. Allahumma Salli 'ala Sayyidina Muhammadinin-Nabiyyil-Ummiyi wa Aalihi wa Barik wa Sallim.

And there's no time better than seeking forgiveness, than these three months: the present Islamic month is Rajab; the Month of Allah. The next one is Sha'aban, the month of the Best of Creation (Sall-Allahu 'Alayhi wa Sallam). Then comes Ramadan, the Month of the Miracle of Miracles, the Sublime Scripture, the Glorious Qur'an.

Today is 13th Rajab (where I live). This month of Allah, Rajab, is the perfect time of forgiveness. It has been narrated in the Prophetic hadith: “Seek much forgiveness from Allah in Rajab because in every hour (of the month) Allah frees people from the Fire.” [al-Daylami]

(Note: For detailed advice, please see the link in my signature. Jazak Allah Khayr)

The Prophet (Sall-Allahu 'Alayhi wa Sallam), the one who was protected from falling into sin, the most pure, would seek forgiveness from Allah one hundred times in one sitting. He would say:
رَبِّ اغْفِرْ لِي وتُبْ عَلَيَّ إِنَّكَ أَنتَ التَّوَّابُ الرَّحِيمُ
Rabbighfirli wa Tubb 'Alayya, Innaka Antat-Tawwabur-Raheem.
My Lord, forgive me and turn to me, truly You are the Oft-Returning, the Most Merciful.
Allah says in the Hadith Qudsi: “O son of Adam, if your sins were so numerous that they reached the heavens and then you sought My forgiveness I would forgive you and it is nothing to Me.”

"Allah, O Allah, O Oft-Returning! Pray upon Your Servant and Your Beloved, our Liegelord Muhammad, the Oft-Returning Prophet, and upon His Folk and His Companions, and salute Them in peace with all respect! And make me, through Him, one who is repentant to you in every moment, sincere, truthful, and beloved to You. And Praise be to Allah, Lord of the worlds." Allahumma ya Allahu ya Tawaabu, Salli 'ala 'Abdika wa Habibika, Sayyidina Muhammadinin-Nabiyyit-Tawaab, wa 'ala Aalihi wa Sohbihi, wa Sallim Tasleema. Waja'alni bihi 'ilaika tawaaban fi kulli nafsin; mukhlisan; sadiqan; mahbooba. Wal-Hamdulillahi Rabbil-'Alameen.
 

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Wa 'Alaykum as-Salaam wa Rahmatullah.
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The standard Aqidah followed by most scholars of the Hanafi fiqh is Maturidi. ). Ameen, bi rahmatika ya Arhamar-Rahimeen. Allahumma Salli 'ala Sayyidina Muhammadinin-Nabiyyil-Ummiyi wa 'ala Aalihi, wa Sallim Tasleema. Wal-Hamdulillahi Rabbil-'Alameen.


Already said m not in for a debate... so I won't respond, peace. and please don't assume scholars have weak understanding of something... read their writings and then judge.

I'd rather stick with what ibn taymiyyah says about Asharis than you.... and I value my eeman so I won't test it. :)

AOA wr wbs...
u arent suposed 2 leave da ppl confused here..... post which ur sure of JA :)
ws wr wb,
I was confusing..??
sorry if I was.... may Allah forgive me. Aameen.



"Our Lord, let not our hearts deviate after You have guided us and grant us from Yourself mercy. Indeed, You are the Bestower." Aameen.
 
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... Hey... where did my post go? Did I accidentally delete it or something?

I'd rather stick with what ibn taymiyyah says about Asharis than you.... and I value my eeman so I won't test it. :)

Don't test it, then. Shaykh-ul-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah, may Allah have mercy on Him, was a true scholar of this Ummah, and I respect Him even if I may disagree with Him. But Shaykh-ul-Islam Imam an-Nawawi, may Allah have mercy on Him, was on an equal standing with Ibn Taymiyyah, and He was Ash'ari. I'm not debating with you, I just have a special place in my heart for my Shafi'i brothers and I'm simply defending their standard Aqidah. Allah knows best which one is the more accurate; you can understand your Aqidah the way you want to, but at least, as a part of general courtesy, we should respect other people's opinions.

To each their own; Allah is the judge, and Whom He guides, there is no one to misguide, and Whom He forgives, there is no fear concerning them.

Let's leave this matter as it is, and maybe insha' Allah, Allah will build for both of us a House in Paradise, because we acted on the Sunnah of His Beloved (Sall-Allahu 'Alayhi wa Sallam), who guaranteed us that whoever gives up an argument even if in the right will have a House build for him in Jannah. And it doesn't matter which one of us is right, because actions are judged by intentions.

"I guarantee a house in Jannah for one who gives up arguing, even if he is in the right; and I guarantee a home in the middle of Jannah for one who abandons lying even for the sake of fun; and I guarantee a house in the highest part of Jannah for one who has good manners.'' [Abu Dawud]

:) Let's groom our souls by acting on this Blessed Advice.

"Our Lord, let not our hearts deviate after You have guided us and grant us from Yourself mercy. Indeed, You are the Bestower." Aameen.

Ameen, birahmatika ya Arhamar-Rahimeen.

Allahumma Salli 'ala Sayyidina Muhammadinin-Nabiyyil-Ummiyi wa Aalihi wa Barik wa Sallim. Wal-Hamdulillahi Rabbil-'Alameen.
 

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... Hey... where did my post go? Did I accidentally delete it or something?



Don't test it, then. Shaykh-ul-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah, may Allah have mercy on Him, was a true scholar of this Ummah, and I respect Him even if I may disagree with Him. But Shaykh-ul-Islam Imam an-Nawawi, may Allah have mercy on Him, was on an equal standing with Ibn Taymiyyah, and He was Ash'ari. I'm not debating with you, I just have a special place in my heart for my Shafi'i brothers and I'm simply defending their standard Aqidah. Allah knows best which one is the more accurate; you can understand your Aqidah the way you want to, but at least, as a part of general courtesy, we should respect other people's opinions.

To each their own; Allah is the judge, and Whom He guides, there is no one to misguide, and Whom He forgives, there is no fear concerning them.

Let's leave this matter as it is, and maybe insha' Allah, Allah will build for both of us a House in Paradise, because we acted on the Sunnah of His Beloved (Sall-Allahu 'Alayhi wa Sallam), who guaranteed us that whoever gives up an argument even if in the right will have a House build for him in Jannah. And it doesn't matter which one of us is right, because actions are judged by intentions.

"I guarantee a house in Jannah for one who gives up arguing, even if he is in the right; and I guarantee a home in the middle of Jannah for one who abandons lying even for the sake of fun; and I guarantee a house in the highest part of Jannah for one who has good manners.'' [Abu Dawud]

:) Let's groom our souls by acting on this Blessed Advice.



Ameen, birahmatika ya Arhamar-Rahimeen.

Allahumma Salli 'ala Sayyidina Muhammadinin-Nabiyyil-Ummiyi wa Aalihi wa Barik wa Sallim. Wal-Hamdulillahi Rabbil-'Alameen.

I deleted it coz I didn't want to fuel a fire... I already said m in no mood to argue!

if you mention Imam Nawawi to compare him with Ibn Taymiyyah then you should know Imam Ibn Taymiyyah had same aqeedah as:
Imam Bukhari
Imam Abu Haneefa
Imam Malik
Imam shaf'i
Imam Ahmad
Imam Sufyan Athawri.....

what on earth is wrong with the aqeedah of all these people for you to be supporting the ashari aqeedah....??? :confused:

http://islamqa.info/en/ref/112135

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Now if you don't wanna argue then don't respond, coz I won't insha'Allah.
 
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*sigh* :( Don't get angry. I will not continue the Ashari discussion further.

Just don't force your opinions on me, and I won't force mine on you.

But do re-read that link you gave me, and ponder on these words of Shaykh Al-Munajjid (Every scholar makes mistakes and gets things right, so what he gets right is to accepted and what he gets wrong is to be ignored.), and then ponder upon what I've been saying for the past 3 pages, when you are not angry and have the time.

May Allah forgive the Ummah of Muhammad (Sall-Allahu 'Alayhi wa Sallam). Ameen.

As-Salaamu 'Alaykum, wa Rahmatullahi, wa Barakatuh.
 
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