LUMS admission queries

[spike2]

Hey guys, I wanted to apply for LUMS for fall 2014 session and wanted to know about my chances.
I have 6A*s and 4As in O Level and 1A and 3Bs in A Level. I wanted to get admission in SSE, BS Biology or Chemistry. I haven't studied Math at A level.
So how are my chances of getting admission? I think my grades are enough for admission but what about the test of SSE, is it easy or hard? I have heard that it is completely A level based and A level students shouldn't have any problem with the test.
Any advice/suggestion would be helpful!

 

[VelaneDeBeaute]

Wait up till the 25th of November. LUMS administration will update the admission guides by then and you can have all your queries sorted by.

 

[Minion16]

Hey guys. I'm kind of stuck here. I cannot find the application form on LUMS website. There are 3 types written: visiting, transfer, audit course. I want to apply for BS Biology, undergraduate. Help please! Where on the page is the 'create new account' option?

 

[teachyourself]

http://lums.edu.pk/docs/how_to_apply.pdf ---- instructions

chances i cannot say much, check their admission requirements... but with your O-level grades and if you add the SAT general as well as SAT 2 Subject tests in Bio Chem Phy https://sat.collegeboard.org/practice/sat-subject-test-preparation/biology-em
you could get a good scholarship in the US ... UK universities unlikely because of the 1A and 3Bs ... but you could try the A-levels again... see if your grades improve and then apply .. no problem in waiting out a year... meanwhile get an internship in a Pharmaceutical Industry or in the Food Industry... in Pakistani universities you will not learn nearly enough

but a career in biological sciences? in Pakistan? and from LUMS? .... unless you are thinking about becoming a professor or maybe going into agro-research, maybe food industries but the pay will not be good enough...check the links below... also check the Careers Advertisement Page in Dawn you will get a good idea... but if you do not know what you want to do with you career then that is completely fine.. you can keep on experimenting till you figure it out

you could go for a bi-major though that will open up your options...
http://www3.imperial.ac.uk/ugprospectus/facultiesanddepartments/lifesciences/biologymgtyear
http://www.birmingham.ac.uk/undergraduate/courses/biosciences/biosciences-business-management.aspx
http://www3.imperial.ac.uk/ugprospectus/facultiesanddepartments/chemistry/chemistrymanagement

then probably enter a managerial career in the Pharmaceutical Industry or the Food Industry
then expanding gradually in the management role by doing an MBA in Supply Chain or MBA in Finance or a bi-major MBA

check the links below
http://www.theguardian.com/money/2011/feb/19/biosciences-degree
http://www.topuniversities.com/univ...ity-subject-rankings/2013/biological-sciences
http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/biology/ ---- this link will let you see the type of courses, lectures, etc you will study at a top school for biology -- compare the courses and the material being studied to the Pakistani universities' curriculum
http://www.ericlwalters.org/myths.htm
http://www.indeed.com/forum/gen/Career-Advice/Bachelors-degree-Biology-can-you-do-it/t132436/p2
http://www.cedu.niu.edu/~shumow/iit/biology careers.pdf

 

[spike2]

http://lums.edu.pk/docs/how_to_apply.pdf ---- instructions

chances i cannot say much, check their admission requirements... but with your O-level grades and if you add the SAT general as well as SAT 2 Subject tests in Bio Chem Phy https://sat.collegeboard.org/practice/sat-subject-test-preparation/biology-em
you could get a good scholarship in the US ... UK universities unlikely because of the 1A and 3Bs ... but you could try the A-levels again... see if your grades improve and then apply .. no problem in waiting out a year... meanwhile get an internship in a Pharmaceutical Industry or in the Food Industry... in Pakistani universities you will not learn nearly enough

but a career in biological sciences? in Pakistan? and from LUMS? .... unless you are thinking about becoming a professor or maybe going into agro-research, maybe food industries but the pay will not be good enough...check the links below... also check the Careers Advertisement Page in Dawn you will get a good idea... but if you do not know what you want to do with you career then that is completely fine.. you can keep on experimenting till you figure it out

you could go for a bi-major though that will open up your options...
http://www3.imperial.ac.uk/ugprospectus/facultiesanddepartments/lifesciences/biologymgtyear
http://www.birmingham.ac.uk/undergraduate/courses/biosciences/biosciences-business-management.aspx
http://www3.imperial.ac.uk/ugprospectus/facultiesanddepartments/chemistry/chemistrymanagement

then probably enter a managerial career in the Pharmaceutical Industry or the Food Industry
then expanding gradually in the management role by doing an MBA in Supply Chain or MBA in Finance or a bi-major MBA

check the links below
http://www.theguardian.com/money/2011/feb/19/biosciences-degree
http://www.topuniversities.com/univ...ity-subject-rankings/2013/biological-sciences
http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/biology/ ---- this link will let you see the type of courses, lectures, etc you will study at a top school for biology -- compare the courses and the material being studied to the Pakistani universities' curriculum
http://www.ericlwalters.org/myths.htm
http://www.indeed.com/forum/gen/Career-Advice/Bachelors-degree-Biology-can-you-do-it/t132436/p2
http://www.cedu.niu.edu/~shumow/iit/biology careers.pdf

I plan on doing research in the future, in some sub-field of bio so i'll pursue at least a masters or a Phd in biology. I don't plan on doing some job straight away after bachelors. I know that there are very limited options for bachelors in biology in Pakistan, so i'll hope to go abroad for further studies/jobs. For now I think BS from LUMS is my best bet. And thanks a lot for the links. They are EXTREMELY helpful!

 

[teachyourself]

Remember research over here is pointless... outside of Pakistan you have to take into consideration the Student Visa and Work Visa ... the student visa allows you study.. Work Visa is people who will get jobs... sometimes even with a job a visa is not renewed but without a job it is definitely not renewed.. so you want to base you career studies based upon something as uncertain as Visa applications then you are taking a big risk... until and unless you are citizen of that country

also a Phd in biology... you will have to understand the hours and years that go into a Phd.. the funding limitations of the universities offering Phd... because a Phd in fields such as biology dependent upon the experiments you will conduct and that is not cheap.. btw in Chem bio physics: check the MIT courses link above you will see that a lot of math is necessary for most natural sciences fields... because all of these science related fields are on the front line of research... and research without Math, Stats, is not possible .. also in these fields you a lot of computer modelling and again math is very closely related to software and their applications in scientific fields... so students studying chem,bio physics might need to learn software related to the field they choose... start getting used to easy programming languages such as python for software development, javascript for websites, SQL for database management... spread a wide net so that career switching becomes easy.. because career hopes and dreams do die in the real world.. the trick is to work smart and develop skills that let you be flexible when time comes to make a switch and forget your dreams... gotta put bread on the table... and with phds you cannot do a job... so you end up not earning a dime till you are 26 or 27.. and if your Phd Research ends up going nowhere then that in itself is a waste.. check in the links below what grad students have to say

http://exchanges.wiley.com/blog/2013/10/02/a-day-in-the-life-of-graduate-student-christine-schwall/
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=4897346
http://scienceblogs.com/bioephemera/2011/03/31/are-biology-graduate-students/

so find out more about yourself by following the advice on this link
http://career-symposium.ca/assets/career_awareness.pdf

some more career advice
http://www.slideshare.net/uvaraj6/a...lege-grads-from-linkedins-billionaire-founder
http://www.ascb.org/files/WICB_Pub_Vol_I_II.pdf
http://www.ascb.org/files/CareerAdvice_Vol_III_single.pdf

here is what forbes has to say
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jacquelynsmith/2013/04/23/the-best-and-worst-jobs-for-2013/
http://www.forbes.com/pictures/efkk45ifij/the-best-and-worst-masters-degrees-for-jobs-2-2/
http://money.usnews.com/money/careers/slideshows/the-25-best-jobs-of-2013


Jobs and Salary Survey
http://careerservices.colorado.edu/CommonFiles/PDFs/students/NACEAll.pdf

Careers by 2020
http://www.bumc.bu.edu/gms/files/2012/02/Top-30-fastest.pdf

Use these Sources of learning:- (mostly video lectures)
i. https://www.khanacademy.org/------ for math, chemistry, biology, physics ... very suitable for O-level students --- if you cannot access youtube .... download its torrent via www.piratebay.com
ii. MathTutor .... for math, chem, physics, --- download torrent via piratebay.com
iii. TTC video lectures a wide variety of subjects--- socio, eco, math, psychology, etc --- download via torrents on piratebay.com ... the TTC lectures (also called the The Great Courses) will give you glimpse of undergraduate study in various fields
iv. tuittor.com -- additional math
v. Schaums' otulines --these are books also available at Urdu bazaar in karachi -- downlaod via torrents, 4shared.com, scribd.com ..... wide variety of subjects math, eco, finance, chem, physics
vi. Excel tutorials .... on piratebay.com ...and for software.... http://thenewboston.org/tutorials.php
vii. Use Tor browser to access youtube... and video download helper addon to download the youtube videos... Excel is Fun is a good channelhere is the link for the excel sheets that correspond to the video tutorials http://people.highline.edu/mgirvin/excelisfun.htm
viii. http://nptel.iitm.ac.in/courses.php .... these are video tutorials

 

[dragoninja98]

Hey guys, I wanted to apply for LUMS for fall 2014 session and wanted to know about my chances.
I have 6A*s and 4As in O Level and 1A and 3Bs in A Level. I wanted to get admission in SSE, BS Biology or Chemistry. I haven't studied Math at A level.
So how are my chances of getting admission? I think my grades are enough for admission but what about the test of SSE, is it easy or hard? I have heard that it is completely A level based and A level students shouldn't have any problem with the test.
Any advice/suggestion would be helpful!

So this comes from a LUMS SSE test veteran. The grades are fine, any co-curriculars you could pitch in ?
The grades dont guarantee admission actually. A friend who got 8 A's at O levels didnt make it in.
You need to ask the LUMS admissions office whether they require math or not for Bio and Chem. The Test is NOT entirely based on A levels. The guy/gal who told you this probably never gave the SSE test. From my point of view its an amalgamation of Fsc, A levels and SAT's plus a whole lot of other gibberish.

From experience ( I gave like 8 entry tests into nearly all prestigious universities of Pakistan, med and engineering both). SSE is the hardest of all. Infact my senior told me the night before the test. "Dude you're gonna flip the papers and you will not know the answers to most of em. Infact you'll have to leave out 10-12 questions in some sections. But hey the good news is that the same is the situation with all the blokes in the exam hall so no sweat !"

The key is to be the:
"Andhon main kaana raja"

 

[tweety sweety]

Hey guys I have the same question. I did give lcat this year but I didn't clear it. My maths is not good at all. And also I don't have pretty good grades in O Levels. However my a level grades are good. Help needed!! How can I study for maths? And can I get in as I don't have 6a's in o levels?

 

[teachyourself]

Hey guys I have the same question. I did give lcat this year but I didn't clear it. My maths is not good at all. And also I don't have pretty good grades in O Levels. However my a level grades are good. Help needed!! How can I study for maths? And can I get in as I don't have 6a's in o levels?

as for the university tests... forget em and give SAT... prep material is easily available and it is more standardized than our local university admission tests... and SAT applies to all universities... as for the 6As in the O-levels ask LUMS or check their website... if you are going to apply next year.. do several internships or a single job meanwhile.. and then apply.. if you will apply next semester then get an internship

 

[tweety sweety]

Why should I forget about university test? I mean is there any problem? And lums website doesn't ask for 6a's. I have heard that they prefer students with 6a's. I am good at English but my maths is horrible. I want to apply next year .thelums admission test is on 9th Feb. Any idea what does LCAT maths section consists? How do I study?

 

[tweety sweety]

Any sort of help will be appreciated

 

[TheZodiac]

I've successfully submitted my application for LUMS. If anyone is in need of help of any kind, do let me know because I've already contacted LUMS many times for problems I faced.

Hey guys, I wanted to apply for LUMS for fall 2014 session and wanted to know about my chances.
I have 6A*s and 4As in O Level and 1A and 3Bs in A Level. I wanted to get admission in SSE, BS Biology or Chemistry. I haven't studied Math at A level.
So how are my chances of getting admission? I think my grades are enough for admission but what about the test of SSE, is it easy or hard? I have heard that it is completely A level based and A level students shouldn't have any problem with the test.
Any advice/suggestion would be helpful!

As for you my friend, you've a perfect chance of going into LUMS depending on how you perform in LCAT exam.

 

[teachyourself]

Why should I forget about university test? I mean is there any problem? And lums website doesn't ask for 6a's. I have heard that they prefer students with 6a's. I am good at English but my maths is horrible. I want to apply next year .thelums admission test is on 9th Feb. Any idea what does LCAT maths section consists? How do I study?

you should forget about the university tests because every university has its own test ... how many are you going to prepare for?... give one SAT and you can apply to any university... with pak university tests the tests are not standardized enough and they tend to make changes without any notices before hand.. on occasion i have had students tell me that they prepared for something and got something else in the exam .. i do not know how much of that is true but i have seen the exams kind of ill designed... for the math i would say you check khanacademy.com videos... for SAT and GMAT math... there are tons of math Books for SAT and GMAT math try them out... it takes practice... a lot of it... start with kaplan, princeton, barrons, once done with those move on to kaplan, princeton and barrons GMAT math... then try NOVA GMAT math, then try Ivy GMAT math material .. download these material from piratebay.com, 4shared.com, scribd.com ... if you are horrible at math then i think feb 2014 will be a bit too early... get an internship or a job and apply in the fall season... of 2014 .. no shame in using a year for prep and doing you internship or job at the same time... and NOT a call agent job.... in fact an internship is required for completing your BBA

btw LUMS is not worth it... not by a long shot... it is ranked 220 or below in Asia, it is unranked in the world.. and the only ranking agency that has ranked LUMS is Qs Rankings other rankings such as Times Higher Educaiton ranking, ARWU, Forbes, Business Week, etc do even consider Pakistani universities at a global scale .. trust me when i tell you Pakistani universities teach you nothing... because most of the professors have studied from universities that have been ranked in the 150 to 200 in the world... just a few and i mean a very few have graduated or gotten their Phds from the top universities in the world... LUMS might let you get a job in Pakistan due to its brand value but technically you will have almost no extra knowledge nor skills ... any student from a top 50 undergrad business school will be wiping the floor with you.. but if you want a regular job and do not care about how much skills you actually learn then LUMS is fine ... let me give a single example.. for macro economics at MIT the book that they use at the undergrad level is David Romer's Advanced Macro Economics.... http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/economics/14-06-intermediate-macroeconomic-theory-spring-2003/readings/ .. this text is considered for Phd students in pakistan.. getting the Picture?... and you can check the University of London's LSE programs in finance and economics http://www.londoninternational.ac.uk/sites/default/files/prospectus/emfss-prospectus.pdf and compare it to the ones at LUMS then again you will also get a very nice picture about how far behind Pakistani universities are

here is a list of stuff you study at a top school
http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/

 

[tweety sweety]

Thank youu a ton!!!
actually I have already wasted an year for lums and I don't want to do it again. I had a B in o level maths. So what do you recommend? Should I prepare for lcat from sat books or should I give sat?

 

[teachyourself]

you just wasted a year .. not the end of the world...you can easily take another year provided you get an internship or a job... look at it this way, you do your BBA once in your life...why not join the work force to see if you like what you think you want to do.. then go for the BBA specializing in that field ... before you end up realizing after you get a job that your job is not what you expected it to be... until and unless you do not know what you want to do.. then in that case do not expect the BBA courses to tell you anything about your career.. as for the LCAT if you think you can improve your math by feb then give the LCAT.. preparing for the SAT in two months .. not recommended... check links below

SAT links
http://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/5377626/ ----- this is the basic SAT use this to prepare for the LCAT -- the english is tougher than LCAT but the math easier
http://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/9218411/ ---- use the SAT subject Test Math Level 1 -- the level 1 Math of SAT Subject Tests is comparable to LCAT math -- SAT2 Math level 2 is not relevant
http://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/5807865/ --- McGraw Hill

GMAT links --- for the GMAT forget the Data Sufficiency... just do the math word problem
https://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/7576934/ -- Princeton
http://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/7647219/ --- GMAT Kaplan
http://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/7647525/The_Official_Guide_for_GMAT_Review__13th_Edition --- GMAT Official Board
https://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/8354671/ --- GMAT quant Official Board
https://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/7773071/ --- Manhattan guides (topic based) 5th edition ... these are to be used in connection with the GMAT official guide 13th edition so that find out the difficult questions for each topic in the official guide
http://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/5478222/GMAT_Math_Bible_-_Nova.pdf
http://www.4shared.com/zip/tCGT4Hex/complete_material_set_from_Ivy.htm ---- india's training institute basically a person who keeps on giving GMAT and makes questions for the GMAT -- these are level 700 questions
http://www.4shared.com/office/yQ06skN2/Kaplan_GMAT_800_second__math__.htm --- this is Kaplan's tough math around level 800 math
http://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/5826277/McGraw-Hill_s_GMAT__2011_Edition -- extra if you want
http://usvsu.com/illyrian/College P... the GMAT Math (Robert E. Moyer 2009)BBS.pdf --- extra if you want


i have attached two files could not find their link

 

[tweety sweety]

Thank you so much!!! You have been a great source of help!! Thanks again!!! I hope my maths score improves n I get into lums!!! ^_^

 

[tweety sweety]

hey

you just wasted a year .. not the end of the world...you can easily take another year provided you get an internship or a job... look at it this way, you do your BBA once in your life...why not join the work force to see if you like what you think you want to do.. then go for the BBA specializing in that field ... before you end up realizing after you get a job that your job is not what you expected it to be... until and unless you do not know what you want to do.. then in that case do not expect the BBA courses to tell you anything about your career.. as for the LCAT if you think you can improve your math by feb then give the LCAT.. preparing for the SAT in two months .. not recommended... check links below

SAT links
http://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/5377626/ ----- this is the basic SAT use this to prepare for the LCAT -- the english is tougher than LCAT but the math easier
http://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/9218411/ ---- use the SAT subject Test Math Level 1 -- the level 1 Math of SAT Subject Tests is comparable to LCAT math -- SAT2 Math level 2 is not relevant
http://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/5807865/ --- McGraw Hill

GMAT links --- for the GMAT forget the Data Sufficiency... just do the math word problem
https://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/7576934/ -- Princeton
http://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/7647219/ --- GMAT Kaplan
http://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/7647525/The_Official_Guide_for_GMAT_Review__13th_Edition --- GMAT Official Board
https://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/8354671/ --- GMAT quant Official Board
https://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/7773071/ --- Manhattan guides (topic based) 5th edition ... these are to be used in connection with the GMAT official guide 13th edition so that find out the difficult questions for each topic in the official guide
http://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/5478222/GMAT_Math_Bible_-_Nova.pdf
http://www.4shared.com/zip/tCGT4Hex/complete_material_set_from_Ivy.htm ---- india's training institute basically a person who keeps on giving GMAT and makes questions for the GMAT -- these are level 700 questions
http://www.4shared.com/office/yQ06skN2/Kaplan_GMAT_800_second__math__.htm --- this is Kaplan's tough math around level 800 math
http://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/5826277/McGraw-Hill_s_GMAT__2011_Edition -- extra if you want
http://usvsu.com/illyrian/College Prep/EDUDatabase/General Database/Tests/GMAT/GMAT Study Materials/McGraw-Hill's Conquering the GMAT Math (Robert E. Moyer 2009)BBS.pdf --- extra if you want


i have attached two files could not find their link

hey how do i open these links?they dont get opened :/

 

[teachyourself]

for piratebay.com links ----- download and install utorrent.. it is a free software [it shares files from one person to another person (P2P) ] ... then use the torrent file by clicking on the 'get this torrent' button

 

[teachyourself]

for 4sahred.com just register and then start downloading the files

 

[tweety sweety]

i

for 4sahred.com just register and then start downloading the files

tried to open this link http://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/5377626/ and i have already installed utorrent but this link is not opening. is there any other way to access it ?