For Science Students

[teachyourself]

Ayesha Asif333

for message # 157 and 158

for your ants, honey bees, etc these things were known since 1800BC and interest in insects since 13000BC
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_entomology_–_prior_to_1800

for the oceans it refers to the waves upon waves (in quick succession) and the darkness of the sea can be confirmed by anyone who has done some deep sea diving being a trader stories of sailors could have been easily understood

for the water cycle again this was known long time ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_cycle
http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/Atmospheric.htm

for the earth being egg shaped this is one is a fabrication in the late 80s
the original translation is
79:30 https://quran.com/79/30
Sahih International
And after that He spread the earth.
even if muhammad did say egg shaped, the idea of a round earth was considered since the time of the greeks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_Earth

farming is around 10,000 years old so knowing about male female plants not a big deal, coupled with study of bees pollination and flowers, makes it common knowledge

as for the idea of pairs that has been there
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_of_opposites
yin yang in taoism

the idea of everything worshipping him in the heavens, it can mean anything angels, stars because in islam nature is treated as if it is sentient that is the earth being ordered by god to do something, etc .. also it is a typical statement in the quran in order to demonstrate a being who is all-encompassing, has all the knowledge, power, etc .. so nope no aliens mentioned here specifically



as for the formation of cosmos, the formation is 6 days so nope not buying the science behind that even with the idea "god's days pass slower due to mass increase and gravity slowing down time itself, as in time dilation", then the verse i mentioned earlier regarding the verse in which it states the earth being formed first and then the heavens (verse 2:29), so no science there, sure water formed 1 billion years after the big bang but then that would not fit in with the quran's timeline for the formation of this earth, sometimes god is not a part of this universe, sometimes he is .. i have searched regarding this for easily around 15 years now, so there is literally nothing you can say or do that will be new for me, i started out just like most teenagers being wowed by the science of the quran but in the end it is nothing but vague stuff said by a guy

if you want to believe in it go ahead, not gonna change my mind because i have done the research

 

[teachyourself]

This is the most authentic tradition, compiled by bukhari and Bukharis's hadith are considered second in authenticity after the quran

Islam has made it vital that the permission of the spouses must be taken as the Prophet (S) said "Seek the permission of women with regard to marriage" . The Prophet (S) forbade forcing women into marriage and annulled such marriages.
Periviously you have mentioned some cultural problems .You just forget what people are doing and on the religion it self. What am i to do if people are forcing their girls to marry at a very young age, is it written in the quran that girls are a financial burden so they should be married as soon as possible?? Or that she has to produce kids the as soon as possible.
You do not bring up matters of societies injustices since i am concerned only with my religion

the thing is, you will say it is authentic claiming it is a part of islam but a more traditional person will say that you are wrong, so who is to decide who is right? what people do and decide about the religion ends up being a true representation of the religion, there is no one true interpretation of islam, good luck with sorting that out, so in the end the problem is with islam it is unclear and as such not applicable as a set of laws compatible with the modern civilized world

i have been clearly told by mullahs that the right to choose lies with the guardian and these hadith that claim the right of the girl are fake hadith, they also claim that people like you are misrepresenting islam to fit in with western ideology

similarly while you are okay with child marriage, another more moderate muslims will say no it is unacceptable, yet another liberal muslim will say accept homosexuals and yet another will i am 'culturally muslim' or i am a 'non practicing muslim' so who is right? the mullah? or you? or the moderate? or the liberal? or the 'non-practicing'?

 

[teachyourself]

The scientific story of creation of life is just one example of how the Holy Quran convinces its readers that no human on this Planet could have authored this Book. Many of the scientific facts revealed became known only in the last century or so. The Messenger of God, Prophet Muhammed (Peace and blessings of God be upon him) was an illiterate man. It was impossible for him or for any other human being 1428 years ago to know about such facts.

Examples of Verses Including Scientific Facts Just Explained or Discovered Recently

Some of the Quran verses explain facts about Earth, humans, and other creatures.

1. For example, in Verse 55: 33, there is an invitation for humans to fly, indicating the possibility of flying, more than 1428 years ago.

يَا مَعْشَرَ الْجِنِّ وَالْإِنسِ إِنِ اسْتَطَعْتُمْ أَن تَنفُذُوا مِنْ أَقْطَارِ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ فَانفُذُوا ۚ لَا تَنفُذُونَ إِلَّا بِسُلْطَانٍ (الرحمن ، 55: 33)

O You jinn and men, if you can penetrate zones of the heavens and the Earth, then penetrate! You will never penetrate them except with power (Al-Ra'hman, 55: 33).

it is simply another typical verse to show the power of god and nothing more, as in you cannot do something extraordinary without god's permission, nothing about an invitation to space travel
https://quran.com/55/33
Sahih International
O company of jinn and mankind, if you are able to pass beyond the regions of the heavens and the earth, then pass. You will not pass except by authority [from Allah ].

 

[teachyourself]

WRONG.... want better explanation..feel free to tell me

history clearly shows and it can be concluded through research and investigation also that the man of the past and even pre-historic man was aware of a higher being (who is named as God or any other name) and he humbled before Him and worshipped Him and performed various rituals to seek His pleasure.

Now the question arises, that how man in the beginning became attentive to God? What was the cause that turned his thinking to God? Which factor made him inclined to go out in search of the creator of universe? What is the aim and cause of this view? Basically which factor was effective in compelling man to think about God and God-worship and to contemplate on these lines?

Replies to these questions are possible if one puts in a little effort: Human beings possess an instinct called as the instinct of finding out the cause of every phenomenon. Since the first day, man was aware of causation and he searched for the cause of every phenomenon and every needful existing being. If he became hungry, he went in search of food, because he considered eating as a cause of removal of hunger. If he became thirsty, he went in search of water, as he considered drinking water to be the cause of removing thirst. If he heard a sound from behind the wall, he became certain that it had a cause and went to find it. If he fell ill, he knew that it was as a result of a cause and he went out in search of its cure. In order to escape cold, he took refuge with heat, since he considered heat to be the cause of removing cold.


Seeking the cause and inquisitiveness is placed in the nature of all human beings. Every man is always trying to become aware of causes. Therefore, with regard to every phenomenon, the question, “Why and for what reason” arises. He always tries to satisfy his sense of curiosity through satisfactory replies.

Man is basically a ‘seeker of cause’ and he cannot give up this instinct or ignore it. All human beings – especially the earliest man – were having this natural instinct. Man lived in this world and was confronted by incidents and astonishing phenomena; the change of days and nights, summer and winter, movement of moon, sun and stars, peculiarities of animals and plants, lofty mountains, vast seas, flowing water bodies…he saw all of this with his eyes and fell into contemplation and asked himself: What is the cause of this world and who has brought it into existence? This universe must definitely be having a cause and the wise and powerful creator has created it and He is controlling it.

In this way, the earliest man became cognizant of Almighty Allah and confessed to his existence, and humbled himself before His greatness and in brief it can be said that seeking God is in the nature of man.

Although a group has fallen into doubts and became involved in worship of false deities and gradually sun worship, moon worship, fire worship and star worship…also appeared in human beings.

However the appearance of false deities is itself proof that man paid attention to his innate nature of seeking cause and concluded that a cause was necessary to control this world. But he fell into misunderstandings with regard to other aspects and considered false gods to be the cause and considered them as true creators, and became involved in their adoration.

In short, it can be said that man searches for the cause of all existing things and phenomena through natural instinct placed in his nature and in this way, he reaches up to Almighty Allah, who is the final cause of all things and One to whom all are needful. In this way, His being is revealed to them and they begin to worship Him.

Quran also considers seeking God to be an innate nature and says:

وَلَئِن سَأَلْتَهُم مَّنْ خَلَقَ السَّمَوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضَ لَيَقُولُنَّ خَلَقَهُنَّ الْعَزِيزُ الْعَلِيمُ‏

“And if you should ask them, Who created the heavens and the earth? they would most certainly say: The Mighty, the Knowing One, has created them…” (43/9)

And says:

وَلَئِن سَأَلْتَهُم مَّنْ خَلَقَ السَّمَوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضَ وَسَخَّرَ الشَّمْسَ وَ الْقَمَرَ لَيَقُولُنَّ اللَّهُ فَأَنَّى‏ يُؤْفَكُونَ

“And if you ask them, Who created the heavens and the earth and made the sun and the moon subservient, they will certainly say, Allah. Whence are they then turned away?” (29:61)

Then He says:

وَ لَئِنْ سَأَلْتَهُمْ مَنْ نَزَّلَ مِنَ السَّماءِ ماءً فَأَحْيا بِهِ الْأَرْضَ مِنْ بَعْدِ مَوْتِها لَيَقُولُنَّ اللَّهُ قُلِ الْحَمْدُ لِلَّهِ بَلْ أَكْثَرُهُمْ لا يَعْقِلُونَ

“And if you ask them Who is it that sends down water from the clouds, then gives life to the earth with it after its death, they will certainly say, Allah. Say: All praise is due to Allah. Nay, most of them do not understand.”

no not really, again not grounded in facts just some ideas of your own or that of some religious person's imagination, read about the evolution of religion, evolutionary psychology, the astrology and religion connection, etc

i have addressed this issue in an earlier message in this thread, the belief in god/gods starts with the stars being used to guide regarding weather/crop season, navigation, calenders, etc with the idea being that the stars, sun, moon are gods, etc who are guiding us human beings, from this more complex ideas of religion were developed with abrahamic religions having their basis in the Epic of Gilgamesh, all of this just an attempt of human beings to understand the world around them, while clinging onto the idea of something greater than us specifically for us, it has its basis in the impulsive pattern recognition behavior we have

the religions with a system that allowed a systematic approach to end challenges either via blasphemy claims, expansion through warfare, killing of apostates and in general a totalitarian control progressed with varying levels of success

 

[teachyourself]

continued....
In a large number of verses, Quran has mentioned examples of the astonishing aspects of universe and wants man to think in the right way and to conclude the existence and being of the Almighty Allah from the order and compatibility. According to Quran, each phenomenon of the world is a divine sign (Ayah). Ayah implies a sign or a mark. If man sees the phenomena of the world as they are, he would begin to believe in existence of their creator; although Quran is not a book of natural science that it may discuss secrets of the phenomena of the world in detail and expose them to man. But it has mentioned in brief their astonishing aspects only to prove the existence of the maker of Universe so that it may awaken the minds of those who have the faculty of thinking; and that it may call their attention so that they may discuss and be curious about the exposition of astonishing secrets of Nature and in this way they may begin to have faith in the creator of the world. In addition to this, they may also benefit to secure the needs of life and inhabit the world.

That is why it can be said that the science of knowing man, knowing animals, knowing plants, knowing lands, knowing space, physics and chemistry are the best ways to know God.

nope the scientific claims in the quran are wrong, too vague or information already present

but if you want to believe in the 'miracle' of the quran, sure go ahead

 

[Ayesha Asif333]

Before i move on let me get things straight and i told you i will give u an explanation. If you are satisfied by it then well and good if not then I DON'T CARE
Firstly taking the wrong meaning out of a part of hadith about women
Many anti-Islamic polemic writers specially the Christian Missionaries often quote a Hadith and yell obscenities about Islam and Holy Prophet (PBUH). The Hadith they quote is;

عَنْ أَبِي سَعِيدٍ الْخُدْرِيِّ قَالَ خَرَجَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ فِي أَضْحَى أَوْ فِطْرٍ إِلَى الْمُصَلَّى فَمَرَّ عَلَى النِّسَاءِ فَقَالَ يَا مَعْشَرَ النِّسَاءِ تَصَدَّقْنَ فَإِنِّي أُرِيتُكُنَّ أَكْثَرَ أَهْلِ النَّارِ فَقُلْنَ وَبِمَ يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ قَالَ تُكْثِرْنَ اللَّعْنَ وَتَكْفُرْنَ الْعَشِيرَ مَا رَأَيْتُ مِنْ نَاقِصَاتِ عَقْلٍ وَدِينٍ أَذْهَبَ لِلُبِّ الرَّجُلِ الْحَازِمِ مِنْ إِحْدَاكُنَّ قُلْنَ وَمَا نُقْصَانُ دِينِنَا وَعَقْلِنَا يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ قَالَ أَلَيْسَ شَهَادَةُ الْمَرْأَةِ مِثْلَ نِصْفِ شَهَادَةِ الرَّجُلِ قُلْنَ بَلَى قَالَ فَذَلِكِ مِنْ نُقْصَانِ عَقْلِهَا أَلَيْسَ إِذَا حَاضَتْ لَمْ تُصَلِّ وَلَمْ تَصُمْ قُلْنَ بَلَى قَالَ فَذَلِكِ مِنْ نُقْصَانِ دِينِهَا

BBC Report, a research later published in British Journal of Psychology shows that on average men are five points ahead of women on I.Q. tests.

Women on the other hand are stronger in emotions by nature and this indeed is much important considering the fact that emotions influence all the human actions. A mother understands what her baby is up to in a way no father can ever. Briefly we can say that men have more I.Q. (Analytical and Logical intelligence) and women have more E.Q. (Emotional Intelligence). [According to a Research made by Multi-Health Systems, Inc. (MHS) women score better than men on most measures in E.Q. including Empathy, Social Responsibility and Interpersonal Relationships]

On the whole Man and Woman are equal:

Thus we see that both men and women excel in one thing and lack in another when compared among each other. So they are both in need of each other. Men need women because of their emotions and women need men by the way of their intelligence. That's why we read in Hadith;

عن عائشة ...قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم نعم إن النساء شقائق الرجال

Narrated Aisha, Holy Prophet (PBUH) said: "Assuredly, women are the twin halves of men."(Jami' Tirmidhi, Book 1, Hadith 113)

So we see that what was said by the Holy Prophet (PBUH) was true indeed and it was only emphasized in a particular context.

True Criterion of Excellence:

But one thing that needs to be remembered is that intelligence, whether Emotional or Logical, is no criteria to gauge a human being. The sole criterion is righteousness and piety. Allah Almighty says in the Holy Quran:

إِنَّ أَكْرَمَكُمْ عِنْدَ اللَّهِ أَتْقَاكُمْ

"Verily the most honored of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you."(Al-Quran 49: 13)

 

[Ayesha Asif333]

Secondly the equality of women and men in Islam and their rights

A muslim women is a completely independent personality.In additionto her right to think and believe as she likes, Islam considers her to be an as=ctive member of the society who can make a valuable contribution. From the dawn of Islam women engaged in many occupations such as commerce, agriculture and manufacturing.A muslim woman can make any contract or bequest in her own name.It is not permissible for anyone to take a women’s wealth without her consent. there is a consensus among the scholars of islam that all economic activities of a women, like buying , selling, leasing, giving gifts and giving collateral, are legally valid and that she has a completely independent economic existence . none of these principles have changed, but regarding there application, there can be no doubt that the weaker religious commitment has grown among Muslims the more these rights have been neglected

Modern Western societies claim to have improved the condition of women but have actually demoted them to the level of slaves in the hands of pleasure seekers and sex marketers by convincing them that they should be freed from religious and social redtrictions. The united states of America is one of the leading advocates of women’s liberation , but it also has one of the highest rates of rape and sexual harassment in the world.

Under Islamic law it is unlawful for a women to be married off without her consent or forced into a marriage if her rights are not being granted or she cannot bear the husband .

 

[Ayesha Asif333]

Thirdly, the marriage of Lady Aisha(RA) with the prophet(S)

The question of Holy Prophet’s (PBUH) marriage with Sayyidah Aisha is the one hurled against Muslims in almost every discussion. And it takes much time for people to understand the whole issue only because they fail to understand historical things in their right perspective considering the situation in those particular times. Agreed that a Prophet’s deeds should be above any question in all times and this is true indeed, but there are certain things in which change is inevitable subject to valid reasons and Holy Prophet’s (PBUH) marriage with Sayyidah Aisha is one such case. One who fails to understand the times and all the factors related to issue in hand can never understand the happenings through the history.

suggest that age 7 (even 6 for some races) and not 8 should be considered precocious (i.e. early) for puberty among girls. Below is a reference that a nine year old Thai girl even became a mother.

Sayyidah Aisha was fit for the marriage, considering the puberty factor and physical bearing:

It is rather erroneous to say that Sayyidah Aisha (RA) was a child bride. She was a grown up girl.
Sayyidah Aisha herself narrates; ‘Holy Prophet (PBUH) married her when she was six years old and consummated the marriage when she was nine years old…’ (Bukhari, Hadith 4738)

Having known this, let me draw your attention to another saying of Sayyidah Aisha which Al-Tirmidhi has narrated under a Hadith in his collection’s Book of Marriage, Chapter 18. It goes as:

Sayyidah Aisha said: ‘When a girl is nine years old, she is a woman (meaning, she has attained puberty).’ (Tirmidhi, Hadith 1109)

Moreover, through certain narrations we come to know of the fact she was going through her puberty. Modern science testifies that puberty causes hair loss and this is exactly what we read in a Hadith:

Narrated Sayyidah Aisha: “The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj then I got ill and my hair fell down…” (Bukhari Hadith 3605)

So this makes it absolutely clear that Sayyidah Aisha’s marriage was consummated at an age, she herself says was that of puberty. The general tone of her statement also conveys that it was normal in those times and in that environment.

It also needs to be mentioned that even before the Holy Prophet (PBUH), she was engaged with Jubair bin Mut’am whose parents dissolved the engagement when her family embraced Islam.
All these details kill the argument that Holy Prophet (PBUH) had intimate marital relations with a child, for in that particular sense she was no more a child and she herself testifies that being a nine year old she was a woman then having attained puberty.

Moreover, she was quite healthy and fit. She herself says:

‘My mother intended to make me fat to send me to the (house of) the Messenger of Allah (PBUH). But nothing which he desired benefited me till she gave me cucumber with fresh dates to eat. Then I became fat as good (as she desired).’ (Abu Dawud, Hadith 3903. Albani classified it as Sahih)

About Sayyidah Aisha playing with dolls etc:

Another issue concerning this marriage is the fact of Sayyidah Aisha playing with dolls and other toys. The question raised is that playing with toys is an innocent child act, and it proves that she was a child when she was married to the Holy Prophet (PBUH). This much is true but the point missed is that Holy Prophet (PBUH) did have an understanding of this fact and he did not expect or force her to behave like his other wives e.g. like aged Sayyidah Sawda (RA). Infact we find that Holy Prophet (PBUH) gave her ample chances to fulfill her desire of playing with her friends and made her feel comfortable.

Sayyidah Aisha narrates: ‘I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah's Apostle used to enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me.’ (Bukhari, Hadith 5665)

Sayyidah Aisha reported: ‘By Allah, I remember the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) standing on the door of my apartment screening me with his mantle enabling me to see the sport of the Abyssinians as they played with their daggers in the mosque of the Messenger of Allah (PBUH). He (the Holy Prophet) kept standing for my sake till I was satiated and then I went back; and thus you can well imagine how long a girl tender of age who is fond of sports (could have watched it).’ (Muslim, Hadith 1481)

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[Ayesha Asif333]

These two narrations show that Holy Prophet (PBUH) did care for the natural urge of his young wife for amusement. And this is also a proof that her marriage at the age of nine did not bar her from the enjoyment craved for at that age.

Holy Prophet (PBUH) consummated the marriage with Sayyidah Aisha when she was nine as she had attained puberty and, as she herself said that at nine a girl is rather a woman, but he did not burden her with tough responsibilities of a wife and provided her ample opportunities to enjoy her age.

This infact shows the wisdom of the Holy Prophet (PBUH) that he did present a role model for all the people to come to care for all the needs of a wife. She married women of all age groups, elder to him like Sayyidah Khadija (RA), of his own age like Sauda (RA), younger but mature of age like Zainab (RA) and much younger like Sayyidah Aisha (RA).

Sayyidah Aisha’s marriage and consent issue:

Next comes the issue of her consent. Her nikah, the marital contract, was made when she was six but the marriage was consummated when she was nine. Now had she showed her displeasure about this marriage when she was nine, and thus a woman according to her own testimony, then marriage would haven been null and void, but it never turned up like that. She did not show any such notion and similarly never in her later life did she ever give any such impression. She rather always showed her love for the Holy Prophet (PBUH)

 

[Ayesha Asif333]

Wisdom behind this marriage:

We know that Sayyidah Aisha (RA) was considered the most learned among the all the Companions of the Holy Prophet (PBUH). The following testifies to this.

Abu Musa al-Ashari says: "Never had we (the companions) any difficulty for the solution of which we approached Aisha and did not get some useful information from her". (Tirmidhi, Hadith 3883. Albani classified it as Sahih)

She narrated some 2210 Ahadith from the Prophet (PBUH) and this was possible only because she lived with him for nine years and that too at a young age when people have a sharp memory and great sense of observation. Then she lived for about 46 years after the death of the Holy Prophet (PBUH) and continued to teach the people matters of religion especially those related to household affairs and marital life. No other wife of the Holy Prophet (PBUH) did the similar job that may be compared with her blessed endeavors. This shows the Divine Wisdom for it was not the Prophet himself but Allah that ordained this marriage. She herself reports;

Allah's Messenger (PBUH) said to me, ‘You were shown to me twice (in my dream) before I married you. I saw an angel carrying you in a silken piece of cloth, and I said to him, 'Uncover (her),' and behold, it was you.’ (Bukhari, Hadith 6495)

Thus do Allah’s plans work in a marvelous way!

 

[Ayesha Asif333]

similarly while you are okay with child marriage

U didn't understand me well..Islam condemns child marriage!!

 

[Ayesha Asif333]

I'll go through the links you shared someday when i'll be free. i am not bothered if u change your mind or not, for it is your life and you are free to make your own decisions...plus it makes sense that when a person does not belief on God how can he or she believe in the Book
and if you think God is just an imagination than your wrong..it doesn't make sense because if were just our imagination( just an imagination of millions of Muslims on earth) the the whole universe would be an imagination too but the fact is the universe and all within it and you and I EXIST, physically

 

[Ayesha Asif333]

no not really, again not grounded in facts just some ideas of your own or that of some religious person's imagination, read about the evolution of religion, evolutionary psychology, the astrology and religion connection, etc

i have addressed this issue in an earlier message in this thread, the belief in god/gods starts with the stars being used to guide regarding weather/crop season, navigation, calenders, etc with the idea being that the stars, sun, moon are gods, etc who are guiding us human beings, from this more complex ideas of religion were developed with abrahamic religions having their basis in the Epic of Gilgamesh, all of this just an attempt of human beings to understand the world around them, while clinging onto the idea of something greater than us specifically for us, it has its basis in the impulsive pattern recognition behavior we have

the religions with a system that allowed a systematic approach to end challenges either via blasphemy claims, expansion through warfare, killing of apostates and in general a totalitarian control progressed with varying levels of success

What Nonsense

 

[Ayesha Asif333]

i have been clearly told by mullahs that the right to choose lies with the guardian and these hadith that claim the right of the girl are fake hadith, they also claim that people like you are misrepresenting islam to fit in with western ideology

No one gives a shit about western ideology. Islam itself is a perfect religion and a favor from Allah
some of the hadith have misinterpreted but that doesn't mean the fault is whole religion
Which mullah!? why dont you attempt to understand the ruling given in the Quran and authentic Hadith and analyse the life of the Holy Prophet, but again first you have to believe in Allah and have faith only then you will be guided to the straight path.
TBH some mullahs are just mullahs by name and they don't even know the A B C of the religion

whatever floats your boat tho

 

[Ayesha Asif333]

When they have sexual instincts they are supposed to masturbate NOT get married

no one cares about masturbation, keep your ideas with you and try to be more sensible
You don't even know the proper rules for marriage islam so better keep your mouth shut

 

[teachyourself]

Before i move on let me get things straight and i told you i will give u an explanation. If you are satisfied by it then well and good if not then I DON'T CARE
Firstly taking the wrong meaning out of a part of hadith about women
Many anti-Islamic polemic writers specially the Christian Missionaries often quote a Hadith and yell obscenities about Islam and Holy Prophet (PBUH). The Hadith they quote is;

عَنْ أَبِي سَعِيدٍ الْخُدْرِيِّ قَالَ خَرَجَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ فِي أَضْحَى أَوْ فِطْرٍ إِلَى الْمُصَلَّى فَمَرَّ عَلَى النِّسَاءِ فَقَالَ يَا مَعْشَرَ النِّسَاءِ تَصَدَّقْنَ فَإِنِّي أُرِيتُكُنَّ أَكْثَرَ أَهْلِ النَّارِ فَقُلْنَ وَبِمَ يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ قَالَ تُكْثِرْنَ اللَّعْنَ وَتَكْفُرْنَ الْعَشِيرَ مَا رَأَيْتُ مِنْ نَاقِصَاتِ عَقْلٍ وَدِينٍ أَذْهَبَ لِلُبِّ الرَّجُلِ الْحَازِمِ مِنْ إِحْدَاكُنَّ قُلْنَ وَمَا نُقْصَانُ دِينِنَا وَعَقْلِنَا يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ قَالَ أَلَيْسَ شَهَادَةُ الْمَرْأَةِ مِثْلَ نِصْفِ شَهَادَةِ الرَّجُلِ قُلْنَ بَلَى قَالَ فَذَلِكِ مِنْ نُقْصَانِ عَقْلِهَا أَلَيْسَ إِذَا حَاضَتْ لَمْ تُصَلِّ وَلَمْ تَصُمْ قُلْنَ بَلَى قَالَ فَذَلِكِ مِنْ نُقْصَانِ دِينِهَا

BBC Report, a research later published in British Journal of Psychology shows that on average men are five points ahead of women on I.Q. tests.

Women on the other hand are stronger in emotions by nature and this indeed is much important considering the fact that emotions influence all the human actions. A mother understands what her baby is up to in a way no father can ever. Briefly we can say that men have more I.Q. (Analytical and Logical intelligence) and women have more E.Q. (Emotional Intelligence). [According to a Research made by Multi-Health Systems, Inc. (MHS) women score better than men on most measures in E.Q. including Empathy, Social Responsibility and Interpersonal Relationships]

On the whole Man and Woman are equal:

Thus we see that both men and women excel in one thing and lack in another when compared among each other. So they are both in need of each other. Men need women because of their emotions and women need men by the way of their intelligence. That's why we read in Hadith;

عن عائشة ...قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم نعم إن النساء شقائق الرجال

Narrated Aisha, Holy Prophet (PBUH) said: "Assuredly, women are the twin halves of men."(Jami' Tirmidhi, Book 1, Hadith 113)

So we see that what was said by the Holy Prophet (PBUH) was true indeed and it was only emphasized in a particular context.

True Criterion of Excellence:

But one thing that needs to be remembered is that intelligence, whether Emotional or Logical, is no criteria to gauge a human being. The sole criterion is righteousness and piety. Allah Almighty says in the Holy Quran:

إِنَّ أَكْرَمَكُمْ عِنْدَ اللَّهِ أَتْقَاكُمْ

"Verily the most honored of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you."(Al-Quran 49: 13)

incomplete research again and remember with behavioral studies a single research paper is never enough
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_differences_in_intelligence
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_differences_in_emotional_intelligence

also in beaviorial research you need to keep uptodate because it is a new field only around 100 years because the research methods need to changed accordingly as well, so coming to a final conclusion in such matters will take some time, you will understand this when you will do your thesis and along with it understand research methods, this is assuming you get a professor with experience in doing relevant research

 

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Secondly the equality of women and men in Islam and their rights

A muslim women is a completely independent personality.In additionto her right to think and believe as she likes, Islam considers her to be an as=ctive member of the society who can make a valuable contribution. From the dawn of Islam women engaged in many occupations such as commerce, agriculture and manufacturing.A muslim woman can make any contract or bequest in her own name.It is not permissible for anyone to take a women’s wealth without her consent. there is a consensus among the scholars of islam that all economic activities of a women, like buying , selling, leasing, giving gifts and giving collateral, are legally valid and that she has a completely independent economic existence . none of these principles have changed, but regarding there application, there can be no doubt that the weaker religious commitment has grown among Muslims the more these rights have been neglected

Modern Western societies claim to have improved the condition of women but have actually demoted them to the level of slaves in the hands of pleasure seekers and sex marketers by convincing them that they should be freed from religious and social redtrictions. The united states of America is one of the leading advocates of women’s liberation , but it also has one of the highest rates of rape and sexual harassment in the world.

Under Islamic law it is unlawful for a women to be married off without her consent or forced into a marriage if her rights are not being granted or she cannot bear the husband .

again only claims, deal with the reality that your version of islam is NOT the only one, till such time that your version becomes the one true version of islam whatever you say is irrelevant

read the books of the scholars of traditional views, they clearly do not consider your version a true representation of islam becasue they simply disagree with your interpretation of the verses and the deny the reliability of the hadith you quote, good luck proving them wrong and since they have the authority it always be their word over yours, but they do agree with you for your support of child marriage

as for the west there is freedom of thought someone chooses to listen to the media that is the weakness of that individual there is no system on earth that can eliminate individual weaknesses, it is way better than having your rights taken away from you

 

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Ayesha Asif333

for message # 168, 169, 170

i see, so more justification for child marriage

if you find such a horrible act okay, it is your problem, nothing excuses child marriage

and considering that muhammad was to be example for all times to come, the argument of judging people in the past using today's standards as being something that is wrong does not hold, he has set an example for children to get raped, brainwashing a child to accept rape (the way aisha was) does not make it okay, google the number of child brides who have died of internal bleeding

and if we want to talk aobut norms of those days then female infanticide was normal as well, why stop that?, he could have easily said "do not marry children" but he actually went the other way and had sex with a girl of 9 just because it was the norm in those days, what kind of a monstrous justification is that?

and the early child births of which there have been many cases, all of them are rape just because the people of those families and societies have a 'hush hush' policy does not make it okay, it still remains rape, the same way islam is all hush hush about muhammad marrying a child along with monstrous justifications for his marriage to aisha
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_youngest_birth_mothers

 

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U didn't understand me well..Islam condemns child marriage!!

nope, islam very clearly allows child marriage just using sick and twisted justifications the way you are, then again it is your problem

trying to determine the maturity for children as adults is contradictory in-itself, underage no marriage because consummation of marriage with an underage individual is equivalent to rape

 

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I'll go through the links you shared someday when i'll be free. i am not bothered if u change your mind or not, for it is your life and you are free to make your own decisions...plus it makes sense that when a person does not belief on God how can he or she believe in the Book
and if you think God is just an imagination than your wrong..it doesn't make sense because if were just our imagination( just an imagination of millions of Muslims on earth) the the whole universe would be an imagination too but the fact is the universe and all within it and you and I EXIST, physically

no proof of god, no existence of god

you can believe in god if you want, that is your right