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  1. teachyourself

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    below is a list of links for research papers (will keep on adding these by selecting the ones that are not too complicated) and documentaries you can read/watch, this will help you understand WHY you study whatever you study, how it helps you to understand the world around you

    too often science is taught as memorization and mathematics as a set of processes, you need to look at the link between mathematics (it is quite literally the language of the universe), physics, chemistry and biology

    Documentaries:-
    https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/10323090/Cosmos_A_Space_Time_Odyssey_-_Season_1_Complete_-_ChameE
    https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5055212/Cosmos_-_Carl_Sagan__(Complete_Edition)
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqiQKHZO1dyyAz-g8WOl9Fg -- cosmic portal
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7_gcs09iThXybpVgjHZ_7g --- PBS Space
    --- PBS Nova
    ---- mathematics

    Research:-
    Origin of life: use your biology knowledge to see how much you can understand: use the key terms: fatty-acid vesicles, RNA, chelation, etc. The point being that if you break down something seemingly complex into small parts using the information you have then you can understand it and also understand how what you learn in school relates to the research being done by professionals.

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/11/131128141401.htm?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+sciencedaily+(ScienceDaily:+Latest+Science+News)
    http://jsystchem.springeropen.com/articles/10.1186/1759-2208-3-2
    https://pandasthumb.org/archives/2013/12/new-szostak-pro.html --- simple explanation

    after having a discussion with someone here i was astounded and greatly saddened by how little students these days know about the natural sciences and the sheer irrationality that has resulted as a result of religious dogma, so below are the links for stuff you should already know by now:-



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuT7N5aoP48&list=PL6zkG1Z4dKkP9I8_SbxnbNe298zTnJ7UH
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIEoO5KdPvg&list=PLInNVsmlBUlQT_peuWctrmGMiLngK-6fb
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeWU1yOz8lQ&list=PL4n6Uk3aii8iottl_J2OWrn-8RVveZWri
    https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/3655286/TTC_-_Biological_Anthropology_-_An_Evolutionary_Perspective
    https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/43...cal_Anthropology_-_An_Evolutionary_Perspectiv --- different size
    https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/13527629/TTC_-_Understanding_Genetics_(compressed)
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCShHFwKyhcDo3g7hr4f1R8A
    books
    https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/13729893/Sapiens__A_Brief_History_of_Humankind_by_Yuval_Noah_Harari
    https://thepiratebay.org/search/selfish gene/0/99/0
    https://thepiratebay.org/search/The Greatest Show on Earth The Evidence for Evolution/0/99/0
     
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  3. Ayesha Asif333

    Ayesha Asif333

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    Thank you for sharing the great math mystery video, i think now i will start taking a bit more interest in Maths and Physics
    We can relate science and specifically maths here with religion, and for that matter here's one video which i think u all should watch
     
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    the problem with islam's scientific claims is that they are mostly incorrect, the ones that are correct are have either been proven in per-medieval science or have been grossly taken out of context by muslim apologists and when it comes to taking the meaning of quran figuratively or literally, then the most reliable approach is the extension of the meaning of the quran within which the context/situation for which they were revealed ... just google the counter arguments for the quran's scientific miracles you will be able to look at the other side of the argument and realize that it is simply wrong, you can believe whatever you want believe as long as you do not enforce your beliefs upon others, religion is irrelevant really specailly for science because science quesitons everything but religion says have faith in god/gods or else, faith can be defined as:-

    strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof.

    so science requires proof whereas religion requires faith
    science questions everything whereras religion condemns questioning and punishes for apostasy (death in islam)
    both are incompatible since science breeds a rational individual and religion breeds an emotionally compromised drone who not willing to compromise his/her logic, biases or perception based upon the evidence of reality

    for example the islamic golden era was there NOT because of the quran but because of the scientists who questioned everything, when did the scientific era begin to fade away? when the Ashariya school of thought subjugated the Mutazila school of thought for being too rational and questioning the quran ... hence, the uneducated muslim world of today whose major contribution is terrorism, you can argue the geopolitics all you want but had the technological advancement NOT been stopped no one would have had technology/skill/resources to mess with muslims

    so now you can go on and believe in the so called scientific miracles of the quran waiting for your allah to help or you can actually learn the science necessary to take islam towards tolerance and progress

    links for the golden ratio, have not looked at this in detail because i don't really care much for religion nor will i

     
  5. Ayesha Asif333

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    “Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.”
     
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    any evidence to support your claim?
     
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    This is not my claim that is what Albert Einstein said. This shows he being a scientist understood the importance of religion and that one way or the other science will lead its way towards the existence of God, and when the fact of matter becomes clear that there is one supreme deity then one has to have a religion http://godevidence.com/2010/08/quotes-about-god/ …..here you read all the quotes about what scientist, mathematicians and physicists have to say about religion

    Or is it that you simply do not believe in God? Maybe that’s why you don’t about religion

    There is a reason why so many non-muslim scientists converted to Islam after doing there research and here is all what they said https://truereligiondebate.wordpres...-discovering-the-miracles-of-the-noble-quran/
     
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    regardless of whose claim it is, it is still only that, 'a claim' ... bring in evidence to support this claim .. that is the basis of science, and the funny thing about Einstein he was wrong about quantum mechanics because he did not want to believe that the universe could have something that was so disorderly even though he accepted that the math was correct

    so the lesson is to conform logic, common sense and your perceptions of reality to the evidence of reality NOT the other way around

    quotes do not matter, evidence does, there is no evidence of god

    i just do not care about religion a bunch of stories made up by a few people have no relevance today, for example a lot of the stories of moses in the basket, noah's flood, adam/eve made out of clay, etc have been quite literally copied from Sumerian stories - such as the Epic of Gilgamesh

    faith requires you to be believe in something without evidence, that is irrational, this irrationality leads to dogma whether atheistic or theistic, dogma leads to ultimate downfall, for example the islamic golden era downfall as i mentioned earlier, not to mention the other monstrous acts islam allows, for example in islam marriage can be consummated with a girl as soon as she hits puberty, if only you read the tafsirs in detail you would understand the sheer absurdity (if not insanity) of this religion and the same goes for many others, for example the conflict between predestination and free-will has not been solved by religions having all-powerful deity, even muhammad's response was do not question god and jokers like zakir naik ignore a contradiction calling it a solution (the sadness of blind faith)

    firstly, these doctors who converted because of the embryology issue did not have the complete information needed (it is okay, it happens, people make mistakes) check this link and irrational people are generally gullible no matter how highly educated, no matter how highly skilled, regardless of their reasons to convert it still does not present evidence for god

    secondly for more information it is always a good idea to look for resources that challenge your assumptions/positions, the link below will show you more detail about the embryology issue
    http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Science/embryo.html
     
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    If you do not believe in religion OR God, just because you're a very sane person, then please show some good use of your 'huge brain' and respect other's beliefs atleast.
    Peace out.
     
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    i never disrespected anyone's beliefs i just stated the facts that might have challenged the preconceived notions some people might have regarding their beliefs, questioning the very beliefs without which you would not be able to define or justify your existence is the way to truly analyze yourself since it shows two things, your ability to reason and question almost everything (rationality), then giving your life the purpose/meaning that you yourself only can (hence, the first step towards self-determination)
     
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    everything is right about this video except the last part of Jesus Christ
     
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    Very well....so u have rejected Einstein what about Newton the, don't u know he wrote papers on the existence of God and wrote papers against the trinity of God and he fully understood this universe had a beginning and all that is in the universe in a proof itself of the existence of God
     
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    Get otta your home and look around you everything on this planet is a proof of God's existence. Who created you or did u yourself created yourself.Never can that happen. Quotes may not be the evidence but they were said by scientists themselves and there has to be some truth in it, in fact they did observe the nature closely and how things work, they were able to see the proof in it so they ended up writing qoutes abt God
     
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    Science is merely a study of phenomena which already exists, its the study of the seen world. it can just tell what is the big bang butt not give us the answer to what caused the Big bang? Cant it, but humans need to know the answer of all such questions
     
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    Whatever. Not gonna read this whole idk what
     
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    rejected Einstein? the question is not clear, if you mean rejected his claim, then yes because what we need is evidence

    yet again this is only a claim there is no evidence to support his claim, it does not matter what people say, it matters what can be proven, accepting whatever people say because they have some type of authority is as bad as religious dogma, in fact it is the basis of religious dogma
     
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    just because we do not know who created everything (even if it is a 'who') does not mean that you accept the claim god made it without any proof, simply accept we do not know and not knowing stuff is not bad at all, not knowing something is the first step towards getting to know the world around us, the 'why' of creation does not even have to matter give your life your own meaning, think for yourself and others around you rather than believing anyone because they said something


    no, the truth has to be in the form of evidence, this is the typical mindset of a religious person who does not challenge what people say and accepts authority, what if people would have accepted Einstein's approach towards quantum mechanics and accept it just because he SAID SO, that would have been the end of our research into quantum mechanics, instead when people conducted the experiments, those experiments that proved Einstein was wrong, it was the will to challenge Einstein that resulted in further research, similarly when the Ashariya school of thought said do not question the quran the scientific inquiry died and so did the progress of the muslim world

    that is NOT how proof works in science, read about the scientific method, if they had seen proof of god they would have used the scientific method to present the proof of god and research papers would have been written

    to progress you must question, there have been many instances when senior scientists used their authority to discard the findings of young scientists and it was the scientists who stood up against their superiors and PROVED their work was right are the ones who stood out, the other scientists who did not speak out were found out to be correct later down the road, do NOT believe what i have just typed, go check it out find the proof for yourself
     
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    yes and at one point we thought that our galaxy was the universe itself but now we have the technology to know more, step by step through years of hard works, in some cases literally decades for each finding, for example that there is a black hole at the center of our milky way, this one i think took 20 years of research to find out

    science gets you there slowly, with proof, religion is a short cut to satisfy our curiosity and our inability to deal with uncertainty, the reason why we go for short cuts is because of our pattern recognition behaviour it served as a very good survival technique (uncertainty was seen as a threat) but when you combine curiosity and pattern recognition along with impatience/lack of courage/laziness, you get religion, do NOT take my word for it go find out for yourself

    NEVER listen to anyone just because they say something

    origin of matter and time
     
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    gravitational waves (NOT gravity waves) and neutrinos can help us in this regard

    the reason why we cannot see even till the big bang is because of the red-shift of the earliest light of the universe but detecting gravitational waves (hint in 2015 but proven in 2016) has just begun with more sophisticated technology the gravitational waves of the big bang can be detected, it took around 40 years to develop the technology to detect the gravitational waves

    neutrinos can pass though anything without interacting so those can be produced to go beyond the red-shift and detect what happened, at the big bang and maybe even before it, who knows

    so science gets you there slowly
     
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    Our curiosity gives us the ability to look beyond the present moment. From it, we have evolved an urge to look for causes, it is an inseparable part of our biology. Because of this, we really can't help ourselves when we attempt to find a cause for creation, it is second nature for us to ask, 'What Caused the Big Bang?'

    Any answer to this problem must begin with a key realization: both time and space are contained within the universe and came into existence only AFTER the Big Bang occurred. The cause of the universe must not include them, they are not available to us. It must come from outside our experience.

    In this realm, the solution, whatever it is, will seem very strange to us, and it will almost certainly make no sense to our brains because here, it is possible to have an event with no cause. There is no time, there is no before in which the Big Bang could have occurred, there simply is no cause and effect.

    We must somehow come up with a solution that exists outside time and space.

    GOD MADE IT HAPPEN
     
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    And sorry once again, what is your reason/reasons for denying God's existence? i wasn't able to understand...
     
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